This post will show you that the hadith book keepers didn't even read the Quran.
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Narrated Aisha: It had been revealed in the Quran that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) died and it was before that time (found) in the Quran (and recited by the Muslims). (Muslim: Book 8, Number 3421)
Narrated Aisha: Umm Salamah said to Aisha: A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon Aisha said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (peace_be_upon_him) a model for you? She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhayfah said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of Abu Hudhayfah about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (peace_be_upon_him) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely). (Muslim: Book 8, Number 3427)
' A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be eupon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man 'Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed. (Muslim: Book 8, Number 3424)
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (purbety) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him (Breastfeed him) and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared. (Muslim: Book 8, Number 3425)
First, these verses are not in the Qur'an as claimed by the hadith. Second, can anyone allow his wife to breastfeed an adult male so he could visit her freely?
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Abu Harb b. Abu al-Aswad reported on the authority of his father that Abu Musa al-Ash'ari sent for the reciters of Basra. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur'an and he said: You are the best among the inhabitants of Basra, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it. (But bear in mind) that your reciting for a long time may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you. We used to recite a Surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust."
And we used so recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it, but remember (this much) out of it:" Oh people who believe, why do you say that which you do not act upon" (lxi 2.) and “that is recorded in your necks as a witness (against you) and you would be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection" (xvii. 13). (Muslim Book 5, No. 2286)
Note 1: The surah that was the length of Bara’at doesn’t exist in the Qur’an, nor does the alleged verse "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust." In fact, neither Muslim nor Bukhari know if it is in the Qur’an, and yet it is recorded.
Note 2: After that, Abu Musa al-Ash’ari alleges that there was another surah resembling the surahs of Musabbihat which he also forgot. Musabbihat are surahs that begin with Subhan or Subbah and they are: ‘al-Isra’ (Chapter 17 – 111 verses); ‘al-Hadid, (Chapter 57 – 29 Verses); ‘al-Hashr,( Chapter 59 – 24 Verses); ‘as-Saff, (Chapter 61 – 14 Verses); ‘al-Jumu’ah, (Chapter 62 – 11 Verses); ‘at-Taghabun, (Chapter 64 – 18 Verses)’ and ‘al-A’la.( Chapter 87 – 19 Verses).
Note that the second of the alleged verse in Arabic version of Sahih Muslim says:
<fi a’naqikum fatas’aluna ‘anha yaumal qiamati>, which is translated as “that is recorded in your necks as a witness (against you) and you would be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection"
This verse is not present in the Qur’an, so the translator has tried to identify 17:13 with it. But when we open the Qur’an and read 17: 13, it says:
<wa kullu insane azamanahu fi unuqihi wa nukhriju lahu yauma al qiamatihi litaban yalqahu manshura>
“Every man's fate We have fastened on his own neck: On the Day of Judgment We shall bring out for him a scroll, which he will see spread open.”(17:13)
As anyone can see, this is not the verse identified in the Hadeeth. The verse in the Hadeeth does not exist in the Qur’an we have today.
3.
Reported by Ibn Abbas that Umar Khattab said: “And then we used to recite among the Verses in Allah's Book: 'O people! Do not claim to be the offspring of other than your fathers, as it is disbelief (unthankfulness) on your part that you claim to be the offspring of other than your real father.'” (Bukhari Vol.8, Book 82, No. 817)
Note: There is no such verse in the entire Qur’an.
Narrated by Alqama: I went to Sham and offered a two-Rak'at prayer and then said, "O Allah! Bless me with a good pious companion." So I went to some people and sat with them. An old man came and sat by my side. I asked, "Who is he?" They replied, "(He is) Abu-Ad-Darda.' I said (to him), "I prayed to Allah to bless me with a pious companion and He sent you to me." He asked me, "From where are you?" I replied, "From the people of Al-Kufa." He said, "Isn't there amongst you Ibn Um 'Abd, the one who used to carry the shoes, the cushion (or pillow) and the water for ablution? Is there amongst you the one whom Allah gave refuge from Satan through the request of His Prophet? Is there amongst you the one who keeps the secrets of the Prophet which nobody knows except him? "Abu Darda further asked, "How does 'Abdullah (bin Mas'ud) recite the Sura starting with, 'By the Night as it conceals (the light)?' " (92.1) Then I recited before him: "By the Night as it envelops: And by the Day as it appears in brightness; And by male and female." (92.1-3) On this Abu Ad-Darda' said, "By Allah, the Prophet made me recite the Sura in this way while I was listening to him (reciting it)." (Bukhari Vol. 5, Book 57, No. 85)
Note: According to this Hadeeth, Abu Darda states that the first three verses of chapter 92 are:
Waallayli itha yaghsha - (“By the night as it envelops,”)
Waalnnahari itha tajalla (“and by the day as it appears in brightness!”)
Walththakara waalontha (“And by male and the female!”)
Note the third verse. The Qur’an we have today has the following
Waallayli itha yaghsha - (“By the night as it envelops,”)
Waalnnahari itha tajalla (“and by the day as it appears in brightness!”)
Wama khalaqa alththakara waalontha (“And by the creation of the male and the female!”)
According to this Hadeeth of Bukhari, the word “wama khalaqa” was not in the Qur’an.
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Narrated by Anas: Some people from 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them, so Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) allowed them to go to the herd of camels (given as Zakat) and they drank their milk and urine (as medicine) but they killed the shepherd and drove away all the camels. So Allah's Apostle sent (men) in their pursuit to catch them, and they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut, and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron and they were left in the Harra (a stony place at Medina) biting the stones. (Bukhari: Volume 2, Book 24, Number 577)
This Hadeeth is repeated 14 times in Bukhari. Here are the other references: vol 1, No.234; vol 4 No.261; vol 5, No.505; vol 5, No.506; vol 7, No.589; vol 7, No. 590; vol 7, No. 623; vol 8, No. 794, vol 8, No. 795, vol 8, No. 796, vol 8, No. 797; vol 9, No. 37.
And here is a version from Muslim:
Anas reported: Eight men of the tribe of 'Ukl came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and swore allegiance to him on Islam, but found the climate of that land uncogenial to their health and thus they became sick, and they made complaint of that to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: Why don't you go to (the fold) of our camels along with our shepherd, and make use of their milk and urine. They said: Yes. They set out and drank their (camels') milk and urine and regained their health. They killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. This (news) reached Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and he sent them on their track and they were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died. (Muslim: Book 16, No. 4131)
Narrated Yahya: Humaid said, "A man peeped into the house of the Prophet and the Prophet aimed an arrow head at him to hit him." I asked, "Who told you that?" He said, "Anas bin Malik" (Bukhari: Volume 9, Book 83, Number 27)
Narrated Anas: A man peeped into one of the dwelling places of the Prophet. The Prophet got up and aimed a sharp-edged arrow head (or wooden stick) at him to poke him stealthily. (Bukhari: Volume 9, Book 83, Number 38a)
And here is what the Qur'an says about the Messenger:
“We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all the creatures.” (21:107)
“It is part of the Mercy of Allah that thou dost deal gently with them. Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (Their faults), and ask for (Allah's) forgiveness for them; and consult them in affairs (of moment). Then, when thou hast taken a decision put thy trust in Allah. For Allah loves those who put their trust (in Him).” (3:159)
“Indeed, there has come unto you [O mankind] an Apostle from among yourselves: heavily weighs -upon him [the thought] that you might suffer [in the life to come]; full of concern for you [is he, and] full of compassion and mercy towards the believers.” (9:128)
“You have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern of conduct” (33:21)
“And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character.” (68:4)
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“Say: ‘Am I, then, to seek a sustainer other than God, when He is the Sustainer of all things?’ and whatever [wrong] any human being commits rests upon himself alone; and no bearer of burdens shall be made to bear another's burden, and, in time, unto your Sustainer you all must return: and then He will make you. [truly] understand all that on which you were wont to differ.” (6:164)
“Whoever chooses to follow the right path, follows it but for his own good; and whoever goes astray, goes but astray to his own hurt; and no bearer of burdens shall be made to bear another’s burden. Moreover, We would never chastise [any community for the wrong they may do] ere We have sent an apostle [to them].” (17:15)
“And be conscious of the Day on which you shall be brought back unto God, whereupon every human being shall be repaid in full for what he has earned, and none shall be wronged.” (2:281)
“How, then, [will they fare] when We shall gather them all together to witness the Day about [the coming of] which there is no doubt, and every human being shall be repaid in full for what he has done, and none shall be wronged?” (3:25)
“Whoever shall come [before God] with a good deed will gain ten times the like thereof; but whoever shall come with an evil deed will be requited with no more than the like thereof; and none shall be wronged.” (6:160)
But apparently, the Prophet is shown to be unaware of this principle:
Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "Whenever a person is murdered unjustly, there is a share from the burden of the crime on the first son of Adam for he was the first to start the tradition of murdering." (Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 552)
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "But for the Israelis, meat would not decay and but for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands." (Bukhari: Vol. 4, Book 55, No. 547)
This last Hadeeth is interesting in two regards: One it relates the betrayal of any woman to the alleged betrayal of “Eve”, which is not consistent with the Qur’anic principle of “no bearer of burdens shall near the burden of another”; second, it relates something very strange implying that before the existence of Bani-Israel (i.e. before the 12 tribes originating from the 12 sons of Prophet Jacob) the meat did not decay. No recorded history mentions this amazing and miraculous transformation after coming of Bani Israel.
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It is narrated on the authority of 'A'isha who said: When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) passed away, his wives made up their minds to send 'Uthman b. 'Affan (as their spokesman) to Abu Bakr to demand from him their share from the legacy of the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him). (At this), A'isha said to them: Hasn't the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: "We (Prophets) do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is (to be given in) charity"? (Muslim: 19:4351)
It has been narrated by 'Urwa b Zubair on the authority of 'A'isha, wife of the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him), that Fatima, daughter of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), requested Abu Bakr, after the death of the Messenger of Allah (may peace he upon him), that he should set apart her share from what the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had left from the properties that God had bestowed upon him. Abu Bakr said to her: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: "We (Prophets) do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is Sadaqa (charity)." The narrator said: She (Fatima) lived six months after the death of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and she used to demand from Abu Bakr her share from the legacy of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) from Khaibar, Fadak and his charitable endowments at Medina. Abu Bakr refused to give her this, and said: I am not going to give up doing anything which the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used to do. I am afraid that if I go against his instructions in any matter I shall deviate from the right course. So far as the charitable endowments at Medina were concerned, 'Umar handed them over to 'All and Abbas, but 'Ali got the better of him (and kept the property under his exclusive possession). And as far as Khaibar and Fadak were concerned 'Umar kept them with him, and said: These are the endowments of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) (to the Umma). Their income was spent on the discharge of the responsibilities that devolved upon him on the emergencies he had to meet. And their management was to be in the hands of one who managed the affairs (of the Islamic State). The narrator said: They have been managed as such up to this day. (Muslim: Book 19, No. 4354)
The poor daughter of the Prophet was kept away from a gift her father had given her during his lifetime based on a Hadeeth. Now, consider the following verse of the Qur’an:
“And Sulaiman inherited <warasa> from Dawud.” (27:15)
Dawud was a king, and when he passed away, his son, Sulaiman inherited his kingdom and became the king. Dawud was also a Prophet.
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Salim reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: He who kept a dog other than one meant for hunting or for watching the herd, lost two qirat of his reward every day. (Muslim: Book 10, No. 3816)
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying He who kept a dog other than one meant for hunting or for watching the herd lost out of his deeds (equal to) two qirat every day. (Muslim: Book 10, No. 3817)
Now let us see what the Qur’an says about Ashab-al-Kahaf, the young men who were believers and facing persecution from their people:
“When those youths took refuge in the cave, they prayed: ‘O our Sustainer! Bestow on us grace from Thyself, and endow us, whatever our [outward] condition, with consciousness of what is right! And thereupon We veiled their ears in the cave for many a year” (18:10-11)
“[And now] We shall truly relate to thee their story: Behold, they were young men who had attained to faith in their Sustainer: and [so] We deepened their consciousness of the right way” (18:13)
But the problem is that these rightly guided believers had a dog with them who was neither hunting nor guarding a herd.
“And thou wouldst have thought that they were awake, whereas they lay asleep. And We caused them to turn over repeatedly, now to the right, now to the left; and their dog [lay] on the threshold, its forepaws outstretched. Hadst thou come upon them [unprepared], thou wouldst surely have turned away from them in flight, and wouldst surely have been filled with awe of them.” (18:18)
“[And in times to come] some will say, ‘[They were] three, the fourth of them being their dog,’ while others will say, ‘Five, with their dog as the sixth of them’ -idly guessing at something of which they can have no knowledge -and [so on, until] some will say, ‘[They were] seven, the eighth of them being their dog.’ Say: ‘My Sustainer knows best how many they were. None but a few have any [real] knowledge of them. Hence, do not argue about them otherwise than by way of an obvious argument, and do not ask any of those [story-tellers] to enlighten thee about them.’” (18:22)
Since the youth were losing 2 rewards per day, their reward balance must have been in the negative when they woke up after so many years.
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“And if any of you die and leave wives behind, they shall undergo, without remarrying, a waiting-period of four months and ten days; whereupon, when they have reached the end of their waiting-term, there shall be no sin in whatever they may do with their persons in a lawful manner. And God is aware of all that you do.” (2:234)
Now let us see if the Prophet followed this advice from God:
Narrated Anas: The Prophet stayed for three days at a place between Khaibar and Medina, and there he consummated his marriage with Safiyya bint Huyay. I invited the Muslims to a banquet which included neither meat nor bread. The Prophet ordered for the leather dining sheets to be spread, and then dates, dried yogurt and butter were provided over it, and that was the Walima (banquet) of the Prophet. The Muslims asked whether Safiyya would be considered as his wife or as a slave girl of what his right hands possessed. Then they said, "If the Prophet screens her from the people, then she Is the Prophet's wife but if he does not screen her, then she is a slave girl." So when the Prophet proceeded, he made a place for her (on the camel) behind him and screened her from people. (Bukhari: Vol.7, Book 62, No. 89)
The collection of Bukhari also informs us that Sufiyya’s husband was killed in the battle of Khaiber against the Muslims, and it was after his death that she was taken as a captive, and was married within a few days to the Prophet, who immediately consummated his marriage to her while still on the way to Medina. (Bukhari: Vol. 5, Book 59, No. 522)
This is just a sample of Ahadith in Muslim and Bukhari that contradict the Qur'an. There are many others that not only contradict the Qur'an but contradict each other also.
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Even Math Shows That Hadiths Are Fake
There is a reason why mullahs try to shut anyone who goes against what they say. Before we saw the earliest hadith collectors and critics talk about hadiths being fake. Now here is something more interesting. Even math does not agree with what the traditionalists claim about the hadiths. Have a look:
1. "But the hadith writers are still insistent. According to some, at least Bukhari's hadith is infallible. Why? Because Bukhari is reported to have sifted through more than 600,000 hadiths and had picked only 7,275 to be included in his `authentic' collection. This fact is put forward to impress upon the reader that Bukhari was meticulous and thorough in his life's work. Bukhari merely took 1.25% of all the hadiths he came across as authentic. But a simple calculation will show that these figures are preposterous and impossible to be achieved by Bukhari or any other human being.
If, on the average, a hadith consists of three simple sentences (in truth many hadiths run into paragraphs), then Bukhari would have had to collect, read, investigate, evaluate and record over 1.8 million sentences over a period of 40 years. This is the equivalent of researching (which include the long camel journeys to and fro across the desert) and attesting to the authenticity of over 300 books, each equivalent to the thickness and complexity of a Quran, over a period of 40 years!" From: HADITH A RE-EVALUATION by Kassim Ahmad
2. Imam Bokhari the collector of the narration lived in a period over 230 years after the death of the prophet. Out of the 600,000 hadith (narrations) that he collected, which were initially attributed to the prophet, he threw out as fabrication 592,700 of them and kept only 7300 as being genuine. They further reduce to 2762 hadith after repetition. The margin of error in these numbers is so great, that any rational inquirer can see that accepting the book of Bukhari as containing all authentic hadith or even a majority of authentic hadith is stupidity. YET THE MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS UNQUESTIONABLY ACCEPT IT. From:Muhammed A. Asadi
How A Terrorist is Made in Sunni and Shia Sects
After every terrorist attack and news about ISIS, the sectarians report that the terrorists do not represent Islam and that they are not Muslim. Although this is true when we analyze how the mainstream Islam is designed we have to conclude that the majority of the sectarians are indeed responsible for the creation of terrorists and other criminals.
1. Hadith Buffet Restaurant: Sayings of the Prophets which happen to be rumors and gossips collected about him after 250 years of his death. Hadiths are like buffet carrying both positive and negative corruptions. Some are extremely brutal. The buffet system helps mainstream Muslims cherry pick their religious duties and views.
Demo:
Sunni #1: You should kill the exMuslims. It is instructed in a hadith.
Sunni #2: You should not kill the exMuslims. It is instructed in a hadith.
2. Abrogation of Quran verses. Yes, in sectarian Islam, it is fully okay to cancel Quran verses. This is how they can ignore the fact that God allows only defensive war in the Quran and even in that strict rules are to be applied.
3. Power in the hands of mullas. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
4. The idea that one should not approach Quran all by himself. The mullas keep singing that Quran is extremely difficult to understand and that it should not be read without the hadiths. Anyone who wishes to leave the sect to follow Quran alone is to be treated like exmuslims and/or killed. In short, independent thought process in the religion is forbidden.
5. Majority of the sectarian Muslims are illiterate about Islam.They don't go beyond the 5 pillows like prayer, fasting, pilgrimage, and so on. This has created a crisis in faith. Parents don't know how to answer their kids about the religion. The ultimate cure ends up being the mullas, the satan worshipers.
1. Hadith Buffet Restaurant: Sayings of the Prophets which happen to be rumors and gossips collected about him after 250 years of his death. Hadiths are like buffet carrying both positive and negative corruptions. Some are extremely brutal. The buffet system helps mainstream Muslims cherry pick their religious duties and views.
Demo:
Sunni #1: You should kill the exMuslims. It is instructed in a hadith.
Sunni #2: You should not kill the exMuslims. It is instructed in a hadith.
2. Abrogation of Quran verses. Yes, in sectarian Islam, it is fully okay to cancel Quran verses. This is how they can ignore the fact that God allows only defensive war in the Quran and even in that strict rules are to be applied.
3. Power in the hands of mullas. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
4. The idea that one should not approach Quran all by himself. The mullas keep singing that Quran is extremely difficult to understand and that it should not be read without the hadiths. Anyone who wishes to leave the sect to follow Quran alone is to be treated like exmuslims and/or killed. In short, independent thought process in the religion is forbidden.
5. Majority of the sectarian Muslims are illiterate about Islam.They don't go beyond the 5 pillows like prayer, fasting, pilgrimage, and so on. This has created a crisis in faith. Parents don't know how to answer their kids about the religion. The ultimate cure ends up being the mullas, the satan worshipers.
Same History of Talmud and Hadiths: You be the Judge
Talmud
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Hadiths of Bukhari and Friends
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1. It is a foundation of our faith to believe that God gave Moses an
oral explanation of the Torah along with the written text. source
2. G‑d told Moses that he will give him "the Torah and the commandments." Why did G‑d add the word "commandments?" Are there any commandments which are not included in the Torah? This verse (amongst others) is a clear inference to the existence of the Oral Torah. source
3. Without an oral tradition, some of the Torah's laws would be
incomprehensible. In the Shema's first paragraph, the Bible instructs:
"And these words which I command you this day shall be upon your heart.
And you shall teach them diligently to your children, and you shall talk of
them when you sit in your house, when you walk on the road, when you lie down
and when you rise up. And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand, and
they shall be for frontlets between your eyes." "Bind them for a sign
upon your hand," the last verse instructs. Bind what? The Torah doesn't
say. "And they shall be for frontlets between your eyes." What are
frontlets? The Hebrew word for frontlets, totafot is used three times in the
Torah — always in this context (Exodus 13:16; Deuteronomy 6:8, 11:18) — and
is as obscure as is the English. Only in the Oral Law do we learn that what a
Jewish male should bind upon his hand and between his eyes are tefillin
(phylacteries). source
4. Originally the Oral Law was not transcribed. Instead it was
transmitted from father to son and from teacher to disciple (thus the name
"Oral" Law) source.
5. Although much of the work may have already been done by previous generations of rabbis, the monumental task of editing, explaining and organizing this vast amount of material was left to Rabbi Yehudah. The end result of this massive undertaking was a definitive, yet cryptic (the basic principles were all there yet a teacher was still required to elucidate the material) version of the entire Oral Law source 6. Defining Mishna: A noun formed from the verb "shanah," which has the same meaning as the Aramaic "matnita," derived from "teni" or "tena." The verb "shanah," which originally meant "to repeat," acquired in post-Biblical Hebrew the special force of "to teach" and "to learn" that which was not transmitted in writing but only orally; the development of connotation being due to the fact that the retention of teachings handed down by word of mouth was possible only by frequent recitation. source
7. The Mishnah is sometimes called Shas (an acronym for Shisha Sedarim –
the "six orders"), though that term is more often used for the
Talmud as a whole. The six orders are:
Zera'im ("Seeds"), dealing with prayer and blessings,
tithes and agricultural laws (11 tractates)
Mo'ed ("Festival"), pertaining to the laws of the Sabbath
and the Festivals (12 tractates)
Nashim ("Women"), concerning marriage and divorce, some
forms of oaths and the laws of the nazirite (7 tractates)
Nezikin ("Damages"), dealing with civil and criminal law,
the functioning of the courts and oaths (10 tractates)
Kodashim ("Holy things"), regarding sacrificial rites, the
Temple, and the dietary laws (11 tractates) and
Tohorot ("Purities"), pertaining to the laws of purity and
impurity, including the impurity of the dead, the laws of food purity and
bodily purity (12 tractates).
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1. The Qur’an is the message, and the Hadith is the explanation of the message
by the Messenger himself source .In this article, I will prove, using verses from
the Quran, that Prophet Muhammed (p) did indeed receive other revelation
besides the Quran source.
2. Recall how Shafi Shafi popularized the rumor that hikma means sunnah by using the verse in which Allah says he gave the Prophet the Book and wisdom. 3. If anyone's interpretation of the Qur'an was to be accepted and there was no hadiths at all, then we would not know why certain things were mentioned in the Qur'an source.
Much of Islam will remain mere abstract concepts without Hadith. We
would never know how to pray, fast, pay zakah, or make pilgrimage without the
illustration found in Hadith, for these acts of worship remain as abstract
imperatives in the Qur’an source.
4. A hadith was originally an oral tradition about the actions and
customs and opinions of the Muhammad source.
5.Before Imam Bukhari (R.A) had started to collect ahaadeeth there had actually been quite a few published books of ahaadeeth in which Imam Bukhari (R.A) found ahaadeeth of both weak and strong testimonials, which gave him the idea to compile such a kitaab containing ahaadeeth of only strong testimonials. Ishaaq Ibn Rahway (R.A) agreed to this idea which strengthened Imam Bukhari’s (R.A) decision.
source 6. Defining Musnad: Al-Hakim defines a Musnad ("supported") hadith as follows: "A hadith which a traditionalist reports from his shaikh from whom he is known to have heard (ahadith) at a time of life suitable for learning, and similarly in turn for each shaikh, until the isnad reaches a well- known Companion, who in turn reports from the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace). source
7. Six Major Hadith books
Sahih Bukhari, collected by Imam Bukhari (d. 870), includes 7000+
ahadith
Sahih Muslim, collected by Muslim b. al-Hajjaj (d. 875), includes
9000+ ahadith
Sunan al-Nasa'i, collected by al-Nasa'i (d. 915)
Sunan Abu Dawood, collected by Abu Dawood (d. 888)
Jami al-Tirmidhi, collected by al-Tirmidhi (d. 892)
Sunan ibn Majah, collected by Ibn Majah (d. 887)
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Ruqya Exposed: The Pagan Ritual
In the world of sectarian Muslims, Ruqya is a treatment done to get rid of black magic, jinn, etc. It has lots of die hard blind fans. Paranormal activities and blackmagic do exist and yes, the ones who perform ruqya admit that such things attack mainly those who are prone to sinning and are spiritually weak. They also say that ruqya does not work on those who continue being so. That is quite an insurance for the mullahs. If their ruqya is not working on you it is because you are a sinner or you are just not going to the right person. There is no other alternative. Do you want to research what they are feeding you? They won't let you do it.
Mullas are notorious for discouraging Muslims from knowing the foreign. They'll just call the research shirk. They know how to create a situation to keep the average sectarians away from knowledge. Just look at how Quran followers are treated on sectarian sites. They have been doing the same about ruqya. But do remember this verse:
Mullas are notorious for discouraging Muslims from knowing the foreign. They'll just call the research shirk. They know how to create a situation to keep the average sectarians away from knowledge. Just look at how Quran followers are treated on sectarian sites. They have been doing the same about ruqya. But do remember this verse:
And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart - about all those [one] will be questioned.17:36Truth is that ruqya is pretty much a pagan thing. Majority of the things used in the ritual are still very much part of the wicca even today. We will look into that shortly. But first let's look at how these hadiths are never mentioned by those who misguide people about ruqya.
Malik :: Book 50 : Hadith 50.4.11
Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Amra bint Abd ar-Rahman that Abu Bakr as-Siddiq visited A'isha while she had a [health] complaint and a jewish woman was making incantation (ruqya) for her. Abu Bakr said, "Do it (incantation) with the Book of Allah."
“I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, ‘Spells (ruqyah), amulets and love-charms are shirk.” I said, “Why do you say this? By Allaah, my eye was weeping with a discharge and I kept going to So and so, the Jew, who did a spell for me. When he did the spell, it calmed down.” ‘Abd-Allaah said: “That was just the work of the Shaytaan who was picking it with his hand, and when (the Jew) uttered the spell, he stopped. All you needed to do was to say as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say: ‘Adhhib il-ba’s Rabb al-naas ishfi anta al-Shaafi laa shifaa’a illa shifaa’uka shifaa’an laa yughaadiru saqaman (Remove the harm, O Lord of mankind, and heal, You are the Healer. There is no healing but Your healing, a healing which leaves no disease behind.’
(Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3883; Ibn Maajah, 3530) This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilat al-Saheehah, 331 and 2972.
Auf b. Malik Ashja'i reported We practiced incantation in the pre-Islamic days and we said: Allah's Messenger. what is your opinion about it? He said: Let me know your incantation and said: There is no harm in the incantation which does not smack of polytheism.
We reject hadiths. But here they are mentioned just to show you how they are satanic. Notice that the first one is saying that ruqya can be done using Allah's Book which happens to be the Quran. Without a doubt, Surahs are highly powerful and they continue to work for the good heart. The next hadith says it is shirk and that just telling Allah to heal is enough. But then why use olive oil, blowing in the bottle, incense sticks, senna leaves and so on? Of course, there is a reason behind this. To understand why, read the hadith given below.
Ibn Al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided.2:186
Yes, it is that simple and it should be crystal clear to the Prophet who received the revelations and followed it.
According to wicca, there are all sorts of spells out there and they require different recipes. Yet if you go over the ingredients of rukya you will see that they are all essential to wicca rituals. Here is a little intro about it.
Ibn Al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
That is because these people will enter Paradise without being called to account because of the perfection of their Tawheed, therefore he described them as people who did not ask others to perform ruqyah for them. Hence he said “and they put their trust in their Lord.” Because of their complete trust in their Lord, their contentment with Him, their faith in Him, their being pleased with Him and their seeking their needs from Him, they do not ask people for anything, be it ruqyah or anything else, and they are not influenced by omens and superstitions that could prevent them from doing what they want to do, because superstition detracts from and weakens Tawheed.Do you see how hadith writers are admitting that ruqya is equal to not trusting Allah? Why? Because ruqya asks its user to seek help from other sources and they happen to be directly associated with wicca. As you saw above, ruquya generally means spell. The hadith they made up about Prophet Muhammad giving permission to others about ruqya should explain why we reject hadiths. People like us who follow just the Quran know that that is a big lie attributed to him. Quran clears up who God is. He is powerful, but frequently responds to a humble mind. That's why he tells us to be humble so many times in the Quran. It is not all about being a reward of the afterlife. Allah is not joking in this verse:
And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided.2:186
Yes, it is that simple and it should be crystal clear to the Prophet who received the revelations and followed it.
According to wicca, there are all sorts of spells out there and they require different recipes. Yet if you go over the ingredients of rukya you will see that they are all essential to wicca rituals. Here is a little intro about it.
Leaves from the Spiritual Spells Book of Shadows
Spiritual Oils, whether they be hand-crafted herbal oils, ritual oils, condition oils, aromatherapy oils, or just pretty-smelling essential oils, are one of the largest and most varied of the ceremonial tools used in Witchcraft and Paganism. They come in all sorts of flavors, colors, and kinds and it can often seem a daunting task to know which oil to pick and how to use it in casting a spell.
Witchcraft and Paganism is full of ceremonies, rituals and events celebrating times of change on the wheel of the year, changes in our lives, as well as specific working rituals. These rites and rituals more than often use specific items and tools such as candles, magical herbs, spiritual incense, and, of course, oils. All of these types of tools possess symbolic aspects that enhance the event or the desired results sought in the magical spell or ritual ceremony. Spiritual Oils are associated with the hidden fifth element of Spirit and help us reach out into the unseen ether and summon from it the forces we wish to communicate with or use in our rites and rituals.
Now let's see the ingredients of ruqya and how they are connected to witchcraft/spells of wicca.
1. For Senna leaves this is what the blogger wrote:
"When it starts to boil, reduce the fire and pour 1 spoon of leaves in the pan. Leave it so 10 minutes then drink it. After drinking it, do not drink or ear for 20 minutes so that the leaves can have its effects."
What wicca says:Senna: "Use for all matters of lust and love. Enhances tact & diplomacy."
My comment: Note that daily taking of senna leaves makes one addicted to it. But do notice that the leaves have "magical" purpose in wicca.
2. The blogger about Olive oil:
"The oil: Rub the painful parts of your body with the oil while reciting the Fatiha."
My comment: Allah does not require the smell of oil to do his job. Only those who never come to know who Allah is will fall for this scam. Sure olive oil is good for skin and massage, but it is dumb to think it will enter the body to do its healing stuff. In wicca, however, it is believed to provide "blessing". See below:
What wicca says:
a. "Athene Oil
a. "Athene Oil
The olive is sacred to Athene, so use pure olive oil as an anointing oil in particular, rub between the palms of your hands and anoint your feet, forehead and lips."
b. Once again from Spiritual Spells Book of Shadows: "Olive Oil has an ancient history of being used as a Carrier Oil and is often seen used in oils meant to help in blessing and anointing".
c. FINGER PAINTING SEX MAGIC
You will need your lover, one ounce of olive oil, nine drops of vanilla scented oil, and three drops of jasmine-scented oil.
Just before you make love, take a warm bath with your beloved. Decide what you both want to direct your sexual and orgasmic energy toward. Keep it simple and be specific. Next, mix the oils together, and paint words of endearment on your lover’s naked skin. Finger-paint one word on your lover’s skin, then ask your lover to paint a word of love on your skin. After you paint each word, use your fingers and your imagination to rub the oil gently and sensuously into your lover’s skin. See how many words you spell before you fall passionately into the throws of lovemaking. Direct your lovemaking energies toward a shared goal or dream.
c. FINGER PAINTING SEX MAGIC
You will need your lover, one ounce of olive oil, nine drops of vanilla scented oil, and three drops of jasmine-scented oil.
Just before you make love, take a warm bath with your beloved. Decide what you both want to direct your sexual and orgasmic energy toward. Keep it simple and be specific. Next, mix the oils together, and paint words of endearment on your lover’s naked skin. Finger-paint one word on your lover’s skin, then ask your lover to paint a word of love on your skin. After you paint each word, use your fingers and your imagination to rub the oil gently and sensuously into your lover’s skin. See how many words you spell before you fall passionately into the throws of lovemaking. Direct your lovemaking energies toward a shared goal or dream.
3. The blogger about Incense sticks:
Wear a jellaba with no underwear, burn the tip on the incense cone, put it on the floor and stand over it so that the smoke is trapped under the jellaba. Remain so until the incense cone burns away.
My comment: According to cultural anthropology, similar step was done by ancient Indian concubines before their nightly tasks.
What wicca says:
"Incense has smoldered on magicians' altars for at least 5,000 years. It was burned in antiquity to mask the odors of sacrificial animals, to carry prayers to the Gods, and to create a pleasing environment for humans to meet with Deity.
Today, when the age of animal sacrifices among most Western magicians is long past, the reasons for incense use are varied. It is burned during magic to promote ritual consciousness, the state of mind necessary to rouse and direct personal energy. This is also achieved through the use of magical tools, by standing before the candle-bewitched altar, and by intoning chants and symbolic words."
4. The blogger about water and bottle:
Blessing the water is easy. Put one hand over the water, and repeat the following prayer to the God and Goddess:
Divine Father, Mother Goddess,
Purify this water with your Divine powers,
Bless it with your light.
You can also add a little bit of salt to the water while blessing it – salt is good for purification of any object. Or you might want to insert a pentacle, or a blessed athame inside the chalice of water. Although the blessed water is often just placed on the altar in a chalice or cup to represent the water element, it can have many other uses. You can use blessed water to prepare potions, to purify objects before enchanting them. Blessed water is also a good tool for protection against demons and negative entities. As a sign of respect for the God and Goddess invoked to bless the water, don’t throw the blessed water down the drain when you need to replace it. Instead, use it as an offering at the foot of a tree, or to water an indoor plant.
5. Saffron ink for writing the Surahs (refer to #4):
My comment: Saffron ink goes by the title of butterfly ink in wicca.
What wicca says:
Use the Magical Butterfly Ink:
* Spells of Summoning Spirits, Elves, Fairies and Elementals (especially of Air)
* Invocations of Higher Forces, God(s) / Goddess(es), Angels!
* To inscribe sigils and symbols on your Talismans and Charms!
* In Love Spells
* In Air Magic Spells
This is what the ruqya blogger wrote about witchcraft:
What wicca says:
"Incense has smoldered on magicians' altars for at least 5,000 years. It was burned in antiquity to mask the odors of sacrificial animals, to carry prayers to the Gods, and to create a pleasing environment for humans to meet with Deity.
Today, when the age of animal sacrifices among most Western magicians is long past, the reasons for incense use are varied. It is burned during magic to promote ritual consciousness, the state of mind necessary to rouse and direct personal energy. This is also achieved through the use of magical tools, by standing before the candle-bewitched altar, and by intoning chants and symbolic words."
4. The blogger about water and bottle:
Then you write these verses with delible ink (ink slates Koran or the rosewater or orange flower with food coloring or saffron) on a sheet preferably transparent. You need a traditional reed pen, ink or modern, at worst you can use a toothpick. You will dilute this sheet in its water treatment: if it is a container of 20l, just dip the paper into the container and let the processing time, if they are bottles of 1.5 liters, it will clear all bottles in a large bowl and leave at least one hour with the sheet until the majority of the ink is diluted. In this case, you can also write on a tablet or a plate because it will be easier to concentrate. For those who have trouble writing, you can trace the verses by placing the transparent sheet on top of the sheet with the verses. For dilution of the verses, they are written without dots, without vowels, as was the writing and the time of the Prophet, prayer and peace upon him, and the vowel points were added later. Once verses diluted in water, the washing is done in exactly the same way as for witchcraft in the general case.According to sectarians, here the saliva is at work.
If a person blows with saliva after reciting Qur’aan, such as al-Faatihah – which is a kind of ruqyah and is the greatest kind of ruqyah that may be recited over a sick person – so he recites al-Faatihah then blows into the water – there is nothing wrong with this.What wicca says:
Blessing the water is easy. Put one hand over the water, and repeat the following prayer to the God and Goddess:
Divine Father, Mother Goddess,
Purify this water with your Divine powers,
Bless it with your light.
You can also add a little bit of salt to the water while blessing it – salt is good for purification of any object. Or you might want to insert a pentacle, or a blessed athame inside the chalice of water. Although the blessed water is often just placed on the altar in a chalice or cup to represent the water element, it can have many other uses. You can use blessed water to prepare potions, to purify objects before enchanting them. Blessed water is also a good tool for protection against demons and negative entities. As a sign of respect for the God and Goddess invoked to bless the water, don’t throw the blessed water down the drain when you need to replace it. Instead, use it as an offering at the foot of a tree, or to water an indoor plant.
5. Saffron ink for writing the Surahs (refer to #4):
My comment: Saffron ink goes by the title of butterfly ink in wicca.
What wicca says:
Use the Magical Butterfly Ink:
* Spells of Summoning Spirits, Elves, Fairies and Elementals (especially of Air)
* Invocations of Higher Forces, God(s) / Goddess(es), Angels!
* To inscribe sigils and symbols on your Talismans and Charms!
* In Love Spells
* In Air Magic Spells
The symbolic witchcraft
Witchcraft often use symbols. It takes an object that symbolizes the patient: his hair, his photo, writing a habit, not a trace of her, his writing, even a handkerchief or towel he used or sanitary napkins for women . Then he will recite incantations over by various things such as knots, close a lock, throw a doll mix of products, etc.. Then it will often try to put it in an inaccessible location or repugnant and representing something negative, such as the cemetery, in a well, in a body of water, sewer, etc..
My comment: So basically to fight witchcraft you need to perform witchcraft? Why not just ask Allah for help and choose the path of the righteous?
Sahih Fabrication Mentioned in the Quran
Traditionalists often boast about how hadiths are older than Bukhari and friends. Some even point out that they were being circulated even when Prophet Muhammad was alive. Believe it or not, Quran confirms it, but with a twist. Just see it below:
How do Sects and Hadiths Look When Logic is Used
These are some of the stuffs collected from all over the Internet to show how the defense for hadiths and sectarian belief look. Note that no fixing of grammar is done to them by the owner of this blog. Also this post is not meant to make one group feel inferior or anything. This post will go through updates.
Sects must accept they Reject Quran for Hadiths
Allah Himself is declaring that Obey Allah and Obey Messenger are the same thing.
-----"He who obeys the Messenger, has indeed obeyed Allah." (Al-Nisa-80)
What is "Obedience to Allah"?-----What is "Obedience to the Messenger"?
Are these two different things?---Or---Are they one thing?
Can anyone obey the Messenger without following "The Message"?
Today, the Ummah answers:
Yes, it is possible to obey the Messenger without following "The Message".---How???
They say: "Obedience to the Messenger" is the ahadith.
So, if you follow the ahadith, you obey the Messenger.
And if you have obeyed the Messenger by following the ahadith, you have obeyed Allah.
---"He who obeys the Messenger, has indeed obeyed Allah." (Al-Nisa-80)---
So, today the Ummah is obeying the Messenger by following the ahadith, which is equal to obeying Allah.
The Ummah have finally got rid of "The Message" that the Messenger brought.
So sad!-----But this is the bitter fact!-----Agree Or disagree! source
Sects Accept Islam is confusing
one cannot understand Qur'an....you need Hadeeth for that, because they are the explanation of Qur'an. OK, fair enough,......
but then comes the next step, one cannot understand Hadeeth (!!!)....you need Sharh of Hadeeth for that. What's the use of an explanation, if the explanation itself needs explanation?
I can so imagine the next step being:
one cannot understand Sharh....you need a mullah for that
and that would bring you to the Q.E.D. of the depressing state of muslims nowadays. source
Biased Islamic Education in Sects
Despite the Qur'an itself claiming to be a book fully detailed and explained, the proponents of Sunnism tell you that you are not qualified to understand the Qur'an. Sunnis believe that if you have only the Holy Qur'an that you are unable to "Obey the Messenger" as the Qur'an tells us to do time and again. So in essence they are saying that the Qur'an, the direct word of God, is not sufficient for a believer.
It is the main argument against hadith rejection that you cannot "Obey the Messenger" without adhering to the sunnah of the Prophet(pbuh). But if Allah sent Muhammad with the Holy Qur'an wouldn't following the Qur'an mean you were "Obeying the Prophet"? The Qur'an is divinely protected and a message for all mankind. The hadith is neither one.
Allah knows best right?
But according to scholars, the Quran is only fully detailed and explained through Hadith which are interpreted for us by scholars.
So scholars know best.
To become a qualified scholar, one must go through rigorous study/training in the Sunni way of thinking. That means you must understand not only the Arabic of the Qur'an but also the science of hadith and tafsir, schools of thought/fiqh, etc.
That means that if you don't believe in the hadith as a divine source of law equal to the Qur'an you can never be accepted as a credible scholar. This also means that every generation of scholars are learning the exact same things and are only propagating the status quo. To become a great scholar is to agree with and spread the knowledge of the scholars of the previous generations.
Someone who goes against the status quo or brings a new idea is not a scholar but a heretic, hypocrite, disbeliever, or kafr.
Someone who continues to blindly follow the current system is a pious and observant Muslim.
If one group is completely devoted to following the Glorious Qur'an from Allah, why in the WORLD do we have this other group criticizing them, fighting them and questioning their faith? source
Sects must accept that their version of obeying the messenger opens a can of worms
Christians Claims that Quran told Muslims to Obey Jesus and The Bible.
3:32 Say, "Obey Allah and the Messenger."
61:6 And when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah"
43:63 And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and obey me.
2:285 "We make no distinction between any of His messengers."
Please, Just provide a verse from Quran, that forbids Muslims Following the Bible.
Or a verse from Quran that sounded like this; "Jesus Teachings only to Jews".
I need that Verse from Quran! Please Save me!
Allah please provide us a verse from Quran, Save Us Allah ! source
Sects Must Accept the Wife of Prophet Was Misguided
Some of the Hadith iv'e read have even described Our blessed prophet going to the toilet and being intimate with his wives etc. Is this all necessary for us to know, didn't our prophet(PBUH)ever get any privacy. I thought muslim women are supposed to guard their husband's secrets and anything they do intimatley, yet the Prophets wives are narrating things that should be kept secret like for example our Prophet(PBUH) having semen stains on his clothes and how many of his wives he would have sex with in one night.
If our children are taught sex education in schools we get offended yet we let them read the hadith and let them get taught it in mosques.
If Hadith was to become so important to our religion and lives why is it not mentioned in the Quran. There are thousands and thousands of muslims out there who believe in Hadith and most of these muslims like my brother in law believe that the hadith compare to the Quran, So why did God forget to mention in his Quran this very important book that would compare to his book and where are all those authentic hand written statements that should be well preserved and safely guarded. Where are these notes now. The only ones iv'e read are the ones that came 100 years later and had to be edited by scholars, not the Prophet(PBUH) or his followers.
Are Hadith as good as we say, if they are why are muslims all over the world divided in teachings and thoughts. Here in the uk our maulvis can't do eid together or fast together and yet we go to learn from them. All they teach in the mosques here are Hadith so obviously they find that more important than teachings of the Quran. Is'nt it because of the hadith that we have all these different sects of muslims in the first place.
Is this what our beloved Prophet(PBUH) would have wanted from us. Do you think he would have approved of his every movement and detail to be recorded and publicised. Why would the Prophets followers and wives tell people about his personel intimate details. If someone did that to me i would call it backstabbing, And why weren't these details shared out with people while our Prophet(PBUH) was still alive. source
Sects accept the average Muslims have no Right to persue Islam on Their Own
I'm not a scholar or anything, just a plain old Muslim, but this is what I have learned from my elders, and this is what I just told my fellow brother who saw this video. Follow Quran and ahadith, but don;t try to interpret them. Go to the Ulama (scholars) for help on that. But following Quran and Ahadith is a big YES.The Quran is the basis, the base of our deeds. The hadith is the guidelines. We follow the sahih ahadith because they have a reliable chain of narrators. We follow the ahadith because they're the words and actions of our beloved Prophet PBUH who never told a lie. Source
Sects Accept their God is not powerful
I honestly don't understand what is so hard for hadithers to understand about this. Using hadither logic God can't be all-powerful if he can't even write a book that can't be understood without man-made sources. Jews and Christians seem to have the same problems, relying too much on external texts rather than the direct source(I know of a Karaite Jew, he has the exact same concerns I do, but about Judaism). So yea, simple logic: If God is all-powerful then he can write a book that can be understood by all of humanity. source
If you claim to be a Muslim but refuse to accept...
that raping prisoners of war is not acceptable
that marrying of girls as young as nine is wrong and depraved
that killing so called sorcerers is wrong
that killing blasphemers is wrong
that killing adulterers by pelting them with stones is cruel and barbaric
...then you may find yourself being accused of apostasy by the Traditionalist Muslim majority.. a crime which in itself is deemed worthy of death in the world they inhabit". source
Sects must accept they Reject Quran for Hadiths
Allah Himself is declaring that Obey Allah and Obey Messenger are the same thing.
-----"He who obeys the Messenger, has indeed obeyed Allah." (Al-Nisa-80)
What is "Obedience to Allah"?-----What is "Obedience to the Messenger"?
Are these two different things?---Or---Are they one thing?
Can anyone obey the Messenger without following "The Message"?
Today, the Ummah answers:
Yes, it is possible to obey the Messenger without following "The Message".---How???
They say: "Obedience to the Messenger" is the ahadith.
So, if you follow the ahadith, you obey the Messenger.
And if you have obeyed the Messenger by following the ahadith, you have obeyed Allah.
---"He who obeys the Messenger, has indeed obeyed Allah." (Al-Nisa-80)---
So, today the Ummah is obeying the Messenger by following the ahadith, which is equal to obeying Allah.
The Ummah have finally got rid of "The Message" that the Messenger brought.
So sad!-----But this is the bitter fact!-----Agree Or disagree! source
Sects Accept Islam is confusing
one cannot understand Qur'an....you need Hadeeth for that, because they are the explanation of Qur'an. OK, fair enough,......
but then comes the next step, one cannot understand Hadeeth (!!!)....you need Sharh of Hadeeth for that. What's the use of an explanation, if the explanation itself needs explanation?
I can so imagine the next step being:
one cannot understand Sharh....you need a mullah for that
and that would bring you to the Q.E.D. of the depressing state of muslims nowadays. source
Biased Islamic Education in Sects
Despite the Qur'an itself claiming to be a book fully detailed and explained, the proponents of Sunnism tell you that you are not qualified to understand the Qur'an. Sunnis believe that if you have only the Holy Qur'an that you are unable to "Obey the Messenger" as the Qur'an tells us to do time and again. So in essence they are saying that the Qur'an, the direct word of God, is not sufficient for a believer.
It is the main argument against hadith rejection that you cannot "Obey the Messenger" without adhering to the sunnah of the Prophet(pbuh). But if Allah sent Muhammad with the Holy Qur'an wouldn't following the Qur'an mean you were "Obeying the Prophet"? The Qur'an is divinely protected and a message for all mankind. The hadith is neither one.
Allah knows best right?
But according to scholars, the Quran is only fully detailed and explained through Hadith which are interpreted for us by scholars.
So scholars know best.
To become a qualified scholar, one must go through rigorous study/training in the Sunni way of thinking. That means you must understand not only the Arabic of the Qur'an but also the science of hadith and tafsir, schools of thought/fiqh, etc.
That means that if you don't believe in the hadith as a divine source of law equal to the Qur'an you can never be accepted as a credible scholar. This also means that every generation of scholars are learning the exact same things and are only propagating the status quo. To become a great scholar is to agree with and spread the knowledge of the scholars of the previous generations.
Someone who goes against the status quo or brings a new idea is not a scholar but a heretic, hypocrite, disbeliever, or kafr.
Someone who continues to blindly follow the current system is a pious and observant Muslim.
If one group is completely devoted to following the Glorious Qur'an from Allah, why in the WORLD do we have this other group criticizing them, fighting them and questioning their faith? source
Sects must accept that their version of obeying the messenger opens a can of worms
Christians Claims that Quran told Muslims to Obey Jesus and The Bible.
3:32 Say, "Obey Allah and the Messenger."
61:6 And when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah"
43:63 And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and obey me.
2:285 "We make no distinction between any of His messengers."
Please, Just provide a verse from Quran, that forbids Muslims Following the Bible.
Or a verse from Quran that sounded like this; "Jesus Teachings only to Jews".
I need that Verse from Quran! Please Save me!
Allah please provide us a verse from Quran, Save Us Allah ! source
Sects Must Accept the Wife of Prophet Was Misguided
Some of the Hadith iv'e read have even described Our blessed prophet going to the toilet and being intimate with his wives etc. Is this all necessary for us to know, didn't our prophet(PBUH)ever get any privacy. I thought muslim women are supposed to guard their husband's secrets and anything they do intimatley, yet the Prophets wives are narrating things that should be kept secret like for example our Prophet(PBUH) having semen stains on his clothes and how many of his wives he would have sex with in one night.
If our children are taught sex education in schools we get offended yet we let them read the hadith and let them get taught it in mosques.
If Hadith was to become so important to our religion and lives why is it not mentioned in the Quran. There are thousands and thousands of muslims out there who believe in Hadith and most of these muslims like my brother in law believe that the hadith compare to the Quran, So why did God forget to mention in his Quran this very important book that would compare to his book and where are all those authentic hand written statements that should be well preserved and safely guarded. Where are these notes now. The only ones iv'e read are the ones that came 100 years later and had to be edited by scholars, not the Prophet(PBUH) or his followers.
Are Hadith as good as we say, if they are why are muslims all over the world divided in teachings and thoughts. Here in the uk our maulvis can't do eid together or fast together and yet we go to learn from them. All they teach in the mosques here are Hadith so obviously they find that more important than teachings of the Quran. Is'nt it because of the hadith that we have all these different sects of muslims in the first place.
Is this what our beloved Prophet(PBUH) would have wanted from us. Do you think he would have approved of his every movement and detail to be recorded and publicised. Why would the Prophets followers and wives tell people about his personel intimate details. If someone did that to me i would call it backstabbing, And why weren't these details shared out with people while our Prophet(PBUH) was still alive. source
Sects accept the average Muslims have no Right to persue Islam on Their Own
I'm not a scholar or anything, just a plain old Muslim, but this is what I have learned from my elders, and this is what I just told my fellow brother who saw this video. Follow Quran and ahadith, but don;t try to interpret them. Go to the Ulama (scholars) for help on that. But following Quran and Ahadith is a big YES.The Quran is the basis, the base of our deeds. The hadith is the guidelines. We follow the sahih ahadith because they have a reliable chain of narrators. We follow the ahadith because they're the words and actions of our beloved Prophet PBUH who never told a lie. Source
Sects Accept their God is not powerful
I honestly don't understand what is so hard for hadithers to understand about this. Using hadither logic God can't be all-powerful if he can't even write a book that can't be understood without man-made sources. Jews and Christians seem to have the same problems, relying too much on external texts rather than the direct source(I know of a Karaite Jew, he has the exact same concerns I do, but about Judaism). So yea, simple logic: If God is all-powerful then he can write a book that can be understood by all of humanity. source
If you claim to be a Muslim but refuse to accept...
that raping prisoners of war is not acceptable
that marrying of girls as young as nine is wrong and depraved
that killing so called sorcerers is wrong
that killing blasphemers is wrong
that killing adulterers by pelting them with stones is cruel and barbaric
...then you may find yourself being accused of apostasy by the Traditionalist Muslim majority.. a crime which in itself is deemed worthy of death in the world they inhabit". source
Why Reject Hadiths?
This list probably will not end easily.
1.We are told to not mix truth with falsehood in the religion.
"And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know."2:42
What are hadiths made up of? According to sectarians, a mix of falsehood and truth.
2. Allah makes it clear that truth is only from him. The rest coming from humans would have conjecture misleading us.
"And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing. And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but falsifying." 6:115-116
Now ask yourself what hadiths are.
1.We are told to not mix truth with falsehood in the religion.
"And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know."2:42
What are hadiths made up of? According to sectarians, a mix of falsehood and truth.
2. Allah makes it clear that truth is only from him. The rest coming from humans would have conjecture misleading us.
"And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing. And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but falsifying." 6:115-116
Now ask yourself what hadiths are.
Sectarian Marketing Techniques to Sell the Hadiths
Following are some marketing techniques used by sectarians on people with the aim to get maximum subscribers for hell.
1. When talking about the criminal scholars hide their background by using every positive adjective available on this planet and stretch it like you have some kind of passionate love affair with them:
Examples: Bukhari and friends were all exemplary, most prominent, most respected, most pious, most influential after the Prophet Muhammad, etc ever known to mankind!
1. When talking about the criminal scholars hide their background by using every positive adjective available on this planet and stretch it like you have some kind of passionate love affair with them:
Examples: Bukhari and friends were all exemplary, most prominent, most respected, most pious, most influential after the Prophet Muhammad, etc ever known to mankind!
Hadiths Are Fake: Truth from Traditionalists and Early Muslims
Many sectarians are confident that hadiths are real truth. Earliest traditionalists have something completely different to say. Below are some quotes right from them. You have the full freedom to verify them and post wherever you like.
From Shu'ba Ibn al-Ḥajjāj 160/776 found in QM of Ka'bi
Muhammad b. Yazīd al-Muhallabī said: Shuʿba said to me: “You almost never come across anyone who would have investigated these ḥadīth like my investigation and sought them as I did. I have pondered them but found that not even a third is valid among them (ḥadīth).”
From Shu'ba Ibn al-Ḥajjāj 160/776 found in QM of Ka'bi
Muhammad b. Yazīd al-Muhallabī said: Shuʿba said to me: “You almost never come across anyone who would have investigated these ḥadīth like my investigation and sought them as I did. I have pondered them but found that not even a third is valid among them (ḥadīth).”
Hadiths Teach how to Pray? Really?
The first question of a traditionalist to any Quranist is always about prayer. How do you pray? Checkmate! The notion is that without hadiths, Muslims would not know how to do it. I am sorry to burst your bubble. The truth is that hadiths do not teach the prayer step by step. In fact, they have so much contradictions that it would be extremely difficult to learn anything. Here is one traditionalist confessing it:
Oldest Evidence Says Hadiths were Fake
A letter from Kharijite Abd Allah Ibn Ibad (d.c. 86/705) to Caliph Abd Al Malik (r.65/685-86/705) predating Al Shafi'i has the following passage about Kufans who happen to be the hadith scholars.
"They abandoned the judgement of their lord and took hadiths for their religion; and they claim that they have obtained knowledge other than from Quran."
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